A month or two ago, I ordered 1000 Hornady .224 flat base soft point bullets because they were the cheapest I could find and just wanted them for “blasting” ammo. Turns out, I can keep them in an inch or so out of my Stag 3 AR with 16” barrel if I do my part. And that’s with a 1-4x scope. I am using IMR 4895, CCI primers, and mixed brass. Great bullets for the price. I will order more when I get through “blasting” through these.