Update, son got out last night due to time constraints bought some Remington 165 gr and dug up his usual 150 gr Hornady deer loads. Seems it just doesn't like 165 gr bullets.

The 165 gr bullets is the left pic at 12 o clock, the 150 gr right. The 150 gr shot like always now the kiddo shot this in a hurry the 2 left one's in the x ring at 6 are pulled by his account.

Now would a flat base 165 shoot better than a boattails ?

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