Quote Originally Posted by sagela View Post
Just to continue this most popular thread...
I get 3300'/s and 0.5MOA from two different Rem700s with Shilen 26" bbls, using just shy of max H335 over the 50Z-Max, and with a half grain more powder I get the same velocity/accuracy from two different
Mossberg MVPs with 24" bbls. I used 50Zs over TAC for 0.25MOA once (averaged 0.35-0.5) in a 24" Stag AR, but velocity was 2970'/s.
Disclaimer: I need perfect shooting conditions to get .5MOA and specifically must deal successfully with heat mirage off the barrels. I can't see through the fog like I used to. ;>)

Another note in favor of Z-Max's; back when I was using TAC in a 20" bbl'd Rem700 I got lucky and knocked 2 Prairie Dogs off the same mound @ a measured 420yds. Given the MV of that load in that rifle, my Zs were only traveling ~1900'/s upon impact but the PDs never heard the sound. They open fast!

I've shot one MT ranch so much I often find the jackets from my Zs lying on the ground. They are spread into a dead flat flower shape. When you try to skip one off a rock (not that I TRY, mind you) they upset and the lead basically disintegrates, but the jacket spins off into the air and whines like a TV ricochet.

When you bullseye the middle of 3 PDs lined up abreast, you occasionally get a triple kill. The concussion (?) from the hit takes out the other two dogs. I've checked this phenomenon several times - mussed fur, splattered in gore, but no visible damage on the other two, yet they're stone dead.
Wow! That's great info! I've had pretty darn good results even in a 16in barrel AR. I know the bullet and I are capable of better results so a barrel swap is in the future. But my goal is to find a bolt gun that will make those 50gr Zmax shine. I have an old Remington Score master .22 that was my Dad's that I cut my teeth on as a young buck. To this day its still the most accurate rifle I own. Made the ground squirrels run like mad when they saw that rifle coming! [emoji1]

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