How we see things ?

[Harter]

Avoiding poly-ticks at all costs and yet ........

I have an expression used sometimes in small transactions where I send a Birthday card payment . Growing up and even my kids got birthday and sometimes Christmas cards from distant family containing a usually cute card and $5-20 cash over about $15 it was more likely a check . The idea has stuck with me and I guess I just took it for granted that everyone did it that way .

I've always been perplexed by the hotly worded contests over a person's choice of hunting cartridges . I grew up and hunted all of my life with a definition of a minimum big game cartridge like this ;
"Rifle cartridges shall be 22 cal or larger with and overall loaded length of 2 inches or more and produce 1000 ftlbs at 100 yards .
Handguns must be 24 caliber or larger and have a minimum case length of that of the 44 Rem magnum and be fired from no less than a 4 inch barrel . "
The 223 will just make the cut with the right load and bullet , and the 256 Winchester Magnum and a bunch of cowboy BP pistol cartridges .

Maine specifically calls out the 25 ACP as the minimum deer cartridge .......... I have a mental image of gross stereotype of an Elmer Fudd dressed fellow and a nickel pocket gun with pearl grips in an exaggerated tiptoe sneak on Bambi ..... Don't follow that it's just weird and highly unlikely to have ever happened but still .

Georgia allows a hafted spear . Seriously that's a stick with a secured hardened point of not wood ......... There's this image of Alley Oop or some other 1,000,000 BC character up a tree waiting to lunge and plunge .

Arkansas only recently added the 4" requirement for hand guns but doesn't specify how that's measured .....

Moreover no state that I know of will allow the use of any ML or Cap & Ball pistol . Odd as the Walker and Dragoon Colts were intended to shoot through a horse and saddle and inflict a serious wound on the man behind the horse ...... You know there's a guy out there somewhere that has put that 45,50,or 54 cal ML barrel on his Contender pistol frame and tried it . No offense if it was you because if I had one it would have been me at least once , and probably with a light load ......

Long range hunting . Oh Lord how many times have I read "you don't need to be hunting if you can't get within 100 yd" or some variation ......
Well sure outside of power line cuts and a few fields Oklahoma and Arkansas are pretty short on being able to see over 100 yards let alone make a shot that far . Most of the south and Atlantic coast east of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers fit that too . Out west where a hunt above the tree line covered in white granite flag stone really doesn't make a sneak possible so 350 yd shots aren't uncommon and in Nevada it's 1 by tag only via lottery draw . You might only get 1 or 2 shots during the 2 week season . Arkansas you 3-5 tags with your license and you can buy more OTC ....

In practice I've seen clean kills on hogs of 100-300 lbs with cowboy type loads in 45 Colts and 357 mags inside 50 yd and miserable failures with a 300 WSM . I've read stories of 200+ yd with a 30-30 in a 94' and 400 yd with a 44 mag .

Perspective , life , experience , history .

[JeffreyDeGraff]

Avoiding poly-ticks at all costs and yet ........

I have an expression used sometimes in small transactions where I send a Birthday card payment . Growing up and even my kids got birthday and sometimes Christmas cards from distant family containing a usually cute card and $5-20 cash over about $15 it was more likely a check . The idea has stuck with me and I guess I just took it for granted that everyone did it that way .

I've always been perplexed by the hotly worded contests over a person's choice of hunting cartridges . I grew up and hunted all of my life with a definition of a minimum big game cartridge like this ;
"Rifle cartridges shall be 22 cal or larger with and overall loaded length of 2 inches or more and produce 1000 ftlbs at 100 yards .
Handguns must be 24 caliber or larger and have a minimum case length of that of the 44 Rem magnum and be fired from no less than a 4 inch barrel . "
The 223 will just make the cut with the right load and bullet , and the 256 Winchester Magnum and a bunch of cowboy BP pistol cartridges .

Maine specifically calls out the 25 ACP as the minimum deer cartridge .......... I have a mental image of gross stereotype of an Elmer Fudd dressed fellow and a nickel pocket gun with pearl grips in an exaggerated tiptoe sneak on Bambi ..... Don't follow that it's just weird and highly unlikely to have ever happened but still .

Georgia allows a hafted spear . Seriously that's a stick with a secured hardened point of not wood ......... There's this image of Alley Oop or some other 1,000,000 BC character up a tree waiting to lunge and plunge .

Arkansas only recently added the 4" requirement for hand guns but doesn't specify how that's measured .....

Moreover no state that I know of will allow the use of any ML or Cap & Ball pistol . Odd as the Walker and Dragoon Colts were intended to shoot through a horse and saddle and inflict a serious wound on the man behind the horse ...... You know there's a guy out there somewhere that has put that 45,50,or 54 cal ML barrel on his Contender pistol frame and tried it . No offense if it was you because if I had one it would have been me at least once , and probably with a light load ......

Long range hunting . Oh Lord how many times have I read "you don't need to be hunting if you can't get within 100 yd" or some variation ......
Well sure outside of power line cuts and a few fields Oklahoma and Arkansas are pretty short on being able to see over 100 yards let alone make a shot that far . Most of the south and Atlantic coast east of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers fit that too . Out west where a hunt above the tree line covered in white granite flag stone really doesn't make a sneak possible so 350 yd shots aren't uncommon and in Nevada it's 1 by tag only via lottery draw . You might only get 1 or 2 shots during the 2 week season . Arkansas you 3-5 tags with your license and you can buy more OTC ....

In practice I've seen clean kills on hogs of 100-300 lbs with cowboy type loads in 45 Colts and 357 mags inside 50 yd and miserable failures with a 300 WSM . I've read stories of 200+ yd with a 30-30 in a 94' and 400 yd with a 44 mag .

Perspective , life , experience , history .

That was a fun read. Ive never really paid any attention to other states rules regarding how you can take game. In Texas is 22 center fire rifle or bigger, I have no idea about handgun or archery rules.

I usually just chuckle when I hear or read people saying that you need so and so if you’re going to hunt this or that. I always think, how did people ever kill an animal before pointy low drag bullets going 3600fps became a thing.

Sometimes people scoff at me for using standard cup and core bullets at modest velocities, and that I have an affinity for non aerodynamic round nose bullets. I don’t care, my loads kill animals.


JTD