Jeffrey DeGraff, I have my books, I do the math for some things, ask questions of what I consider the brain collective, lol, and I am not denying that is the way most of us work. I didnt want to blow up on the FB page, thats why I did it here. I answer questions, offer advice, to the best of my own knowledge and experience.....maybe I expect too much, when I started loading, it took me a year to get the equipment to start, and for some reason, there were things I already knew. ( like 30-06 and 308 take the same diameter bullet) Some of the questions just got to me.