My youngest has been hunting with a Grendel for the last 2 years, a gift from his great uncle HOWA 1500 Mini Action. Nice little easy shooting cartridge. He's killed 3 whitetails with it so far, 2 bucks and a doe. Been shooting 100gr NPs for hunting. Best accuracy I've had thus far was from 100gr Sierra Varminters over the same charge I load for the 100gr NPs, 28.2gr of 8208XBR.