I have a 17 Remington and 17 fireball, that I’ve used on prairie dogs. I shoot the 20gr vmax out of the 17 Remington at 4300fps, and the 25gr Hornady hp out of the 17 fireball at 3800fps. They are like tiny laser beams out to 400yds, but when the wind picks up, they are definitely affected.


JTD