Im using a Franford Arsenal trim center and theres like 1/4" of brass sticking out to hang onto lol. I bought 500 pcs of brass from Wes that I didnt have to do anything to. I currently have 1000 more sitting in my cart lol. Its nice to know I can make my own if I have to but avoiding a lot of work wouldnt be a bad thing for the first reload. Thank you again.