Well Captain, I bow to you! Just yesterday I went with a friend and he used some of my (Glock fired 9mm) ammo and it FTE in a Kimber every other round. After using a U die the problem was solved. I guess I was wrong and you were right.....we all learn something new no matter how long we have done this......Thanks for the advise, it worked! Sometimes we are not quite as smart as we think.