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    WC844 Powder

    Does anyone have any experience with WC844 Powder?

    Made by Saint Marks (General Dynamics).

    They have a web site but not as much info as I would like.
    https://www.gd-ots.com/propellant-an...r-propellants/

    It lists there powder in order of burn rate but little other info.
    https://www.gd-ots.com/propellant-an...r-propellants/

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    It’s commercial military powder, manufactured in enormous amounts.

    Most folks suggest you start with H335 data, at the lowest data and work up slowly. Every batch is different, so if you have more than one keg you’ll need to start again with the other keg.

    It’s made for the military M193 and M856 5.56 ammunition but can be used for.223 loads.

    Accuracies vary, depends on the batch you get.


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    What caliber are you looking to reload it in?

    I’ve used it some, it’s an older powder not particularly temp stable.
    Last edited by Jay Andrew; 10-20-2018 at 05:02 PM.

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    I am look to use it for both 223/5.56 & 308/7.62

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    It is CLOSE to H335 for all intensive purposes
    It is a bit hotter so start low and work up

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    WC844 is the OEM for H335. The only differences between the two are lot to lot variations. (Had to look up at my St. Marks cross reference chart)

    With that said, it will work for both 5.56/7.62. It’s just on the fast side for both. Though I have used faster powders WC-730 in my 308 Win M1A and had satisfactory results.


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    My reloading buddies tell me that it IS NOT the same a H335 . . . but close. (I do not have first hand expierance with it.)
    Please just don't automatically substitute or you could see pressure spikes.
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    I worked fairly closely with St. Marks powder. Who makes WC 844 and H335. They are owned by GD and are based out of Florida.

    They provided me with their OEM list of powders and what the canister version is. I’ve played with both versions in equipment that measures pressure, can say from experience it’s the same powder.

    With that said I am all for playing it safe and treating a powder as faster burning then it actually is.

    There is one important note, powder manufactures will sometimes make special lots of powder, which are an OEM only powder tailored to a specific companies needs. They will often label these powders with the parent powder. So it might be WC 844 Lot: X1234....that is a complete unknown and may be faster burning or slower burning.


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    I have 16# of WC844. In my loading, I have found it to be slightly slower than H335 and is more similar to Ramshot Tac. In 223/556 loads I need about .8-.9 grs more than my H335 loads to attain similar velocity. But again, that pertains to my particular lot.

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    How much difference in accuracy do you all that have used it notice in different temps. I shoot in temps from teens to upper 90s and am curious about how it does at different temps.


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