I generally shoot lighter than average pills. I am in WV. Deer are thin skinned and average size. Shots are generally under 150 and many times under 100. Loads work for coyote and other things as well. If I intended to shoot long, as can be done in some cases, then I use a different rig setup to do such things. Blessed I have choices I suppose. I kinda choose the bullet based on where and how I will be hunting. Probably the reason I prep at least four rifles before season gets here.