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Heard Desert Eagle is dropping this new caliber. It is the 50 AE necked down to accept a .44 cal bullet. Looks similar to the .458 Socom. Anyway, thought I would drop it for discussion. Personally I am not big into beastly pistols. Probably never get one, but I said I wouldn’t get a .44 and I ended up with one.
Are you talking the 440 Cor-Bon. If so,been around for a great while.
A 50A&E necked down to .429/.430". Had a 10" bbl for my DE about 20 years ago. --- SAWMAN
That would be cool..... that would be a barrel change and useable in my current .50
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The bbls were pretty expensive even back in the day. Actually pretty rare nowadays.
IIRC mine cost >$400 20 years ago.
It was a fairly hot round also. Shot mine with the 265gr Hornadys that were made for the 444Marlin. Was liveing/guiding in Maine back then and killed several bear,and heavy bodied deer with the gun. --- SAWMAN
No, this is supposed to be a really new rollout. A guy on another forum that I hit posted info on it. Think he may know someone working in house. He had a pic of it. Probably should have tried to get a copy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAWMAN
Will be interesting to see what they come up with. I would think that if Magnum Research wants to come up with something "new and better" they would develope a high pressure chambering based on something like 454Casull brass or maybe shortened 460S&W Mag brass. Thicker web ='s more pressure ='s better performance. --- SAWMAN
Well, sometimes companies take a stab at something "new" by making as few changes as possible so it is cost effective and still hope to make $$$. Not saying you can't create a good product that way in some instances, but who knows.
If you use the 50A&E as a basis for the new chambering you will be stuck with the 36K pressure thing.
As with the 440 Cor-Bon you neck it down,switch to a lighter bullet,and you gain more speed. (I am a big advocate for,and carry every day,a Glock chambered in 357Sig.)
I shot some very light bullets thru my 440,I believe that they were 180grs,and using H110 there was a hellova fireball.
Where the 440 shined is with the heavier bullets (265 and 300grs). BUT . . . I did not like the fact that you could not use non-jacketed bullets because of the gas system. --- SAWMAN
I hear you. Like I mentioned, sometimes companies don't listen to what we want and what would work the best. They look at the bottom line and hope they pull some easy profit out of products. If they went with other brass like you mentioned it would be more expensive for sure to develop.
I shoot .22 TCM and boy that round is a dragon too. I like both the speedsters and the blockbusters. Don't shoot my median calibers as much anymore. I roll with the .204 Ruger, .17 HH, .460 Smith, .450 BM, .300 BLK, etc. The outer spectrums are what I use more recently. Doing more suppressed stuff so the big bores moving slow are fun.
Whoops guess it’s the 429!
https://www.ballisticmag.com/2018/10...lPFHeexQvssjY4
Two I also shoot. The 204 more than the 460. The 460 S&W was on a T/C Encore I purchased. The pistol, not the ultra bad ass Katahdin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ledslnger
The 204 is for moles, coyotes, and ground hogs. It’s an exceptional round that doesn’t get enough love. For those that don’t see a use, it’s a lot quieter than the 22 centerfires and just an exceptionally accurate cartridge.
The 460 is for, well, shooting neighbors mad about the sound of the 204? Lol. I really have no use for the 460, especially with my 15inch barrel. I mostly don’t use it. I’d imagine it’d do good on hogs, deer, etc but I don’t hunt anymore due to limited mobility. I have used it to punch paper but it’s a lot of powder for that usage. I’ll keep it for braggin rights until someone offers me a different barrel in trade.
I read (and re-read) the article linked above by Ledsinger. Then got out some of my old info on my DE.
I bought it in 1991. Bought the 440CorBon bbl for it in 1993. It was an older,origional MK1. Serno was 323XXX.
I put aftermarket sights on it. Bright orange adjustable rear and orange blade style front. Unknown brand. I also put aftermarket Hogue grips on it.
Re. the article - - -> It does not say what brass it uses. However it does mention 50A&E. It "looks" exactly like a 440CorBon to me. Simply necked down from 50 to 429. My 440 was fast,but that was coming from 10 inches of bbl.
The article states that only two bullets are offered,with 240gr being the heaviest. Hmmmmm . . . wondering why no 265,275,300,etc ??
Do not have any of my 440 loading notes anymore. Had chrono data also at one time . . but gone now.
IMO - - -> If the bullet speeds in the artical are true,my guess that this "new and better" chambering is either a 440 rebranded or 50A&E brass with a thicker web.
We'll see when this gets out into the public domain. --- SAWMAN
Yep, it may be a bit yet. Next SHOT show.....doesn’t say really that I remember.