Any QuickLOAD users here?
I use it quite regularly and have friends hit me up to run “What ifs” for them. If people have “What ifs” I’d be glad to work through it an Post the results here for people to see it.
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Any QuickLOAD users here?
I use it quite regularly and have friends hit me up to run “What ifs” for them. If people have “What ifs” I’d be glad to work through it an Post the results here for people to see it.
Reloading...it’s like knitting for men.
Isn't that a free app?
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Nah, it’s $150 last I checked. I wish they had an app, but it’s a CD sent in the mail. I do need to get the $15 2018 update, for the latest powders and bullets, but it’s still a useful tool.
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Gotcha. Thanks.
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I like quickload as well. Useful tool to have around.
500 AutoMax Starline brass 18" barrel AR10, 700gr Hardcast gas check Matt's Bullet, CFE BLK and Lil Gun unless a faster powder might be better like AA#2 or maybe #7. Load Data I have for Lil gun is 27.0-27.5 gr. Don't have any for the others.
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I would run this load for ya, but I have a couple issues.
My current update of QuickLOAD doesn’t have the 500 Auto Max in its database. Its a newer cartridge so the 2018 update CD may have it, but in order for me to get close I’d have to use the parent case, which is 500 S&W. I’m updated through 2016.
The next issue I have is I don’t have a cast bullet manufacturer in the database that does a 700gr hard cast bullet. (Apparently none of the big mold makers make an mold for one either) I can enter it into QuickLOAD but I’ll need the bullet length, and diameter.
Lastly, CFE BLK won’t be in QuickLOAD. It’s a Hodgdon proprietary powder that is made by St. Marks. For what ever reason St. Marks doesn’t want to work with the makers of QuickLOAD on data regarding their powders.
I’ll also need your intended COAL for the load.
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Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
500 Auto is the same case as the 500 S&W so that is fine. I'm not sure on COAL. Probably max for 500 S&W which I think is 2.3".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
Disappointing on the CFE. It's newer than a lot of the 500 S&W data so loads are limited. I think in rifle it might out perform Lil Gun since it is a slightly slower powder.
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If you can get me the bullet dimensions, mainly the length and diameter. I’ll run it.
For this we’ll assume the shank is the full length of the bullet (Basically a Wadcutter) that way you’ll see results that are a little more on the conservative side ;-)
With AR’s CFE BLK and A1680 (Two very similar powders) are really handy powders because they generate a lot of gas, and hold onto pressure long enough that they cycle the action. Faster burning powders may not cycle the action.
Lil’ Gun can often be an excellent powder for magnum cartridges but you may find it a bit fast to reliably cycle the action.
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I'll have to order some. Haven't done it quite yet.
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If you can I have a load for you to help me out with. I recently acquired 125gr hard cast .327 Federal mag, but all the loads and books I have seen only go up to 115gr. I have been using Lil Gun and W231 for powders. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Racinglizard82
Got it. For this run I used a .311 127gr NOE bullet. I did bump up bullet diameter to .312. Since no COAL was specified I used the default COAL of 1.475". I did limit the pressure to 40500psi (10% below max) and assumed an 80% loading density. Barrel length was left at default of 4".
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Thanks you. That's what I have been looking for. Now to start loading and testing.
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I've done some searching and found a cast bullet mold maker which has some data for a 694gr Cast bullet in .50 Cal that may be similar to enough to the Matt's Hardcast that we can learn thing or two about what powder may be worth while trying in your load. Lil' Gun is near the top but H110 and it's brother Win 296 are listed as the top two powders. I manually edited the bullet from 694gr to 700gr to see if that would make a significant difference and it altered the results by about a .1gr or so. Listed are the results for the 700gr.Quote:
Originally Posted by BradyT88
Cartridge COAL was assumed to be 2.300in
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These 700 gr bullets are averaging 689 gr and are 1.377" long and 0.501". I have 3 COAL's. 2.375", 2.275" and 2.265". I suspect the last 2 are so close the difference will be minimal. 500 AutoMax/S&W.
Any chance you can run quick load for these numbers. Please and Thanks.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4fa1b423d9.jpg
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Sorry it took me a few days to get back to you. Hopefully this helps.
I set the max pressure to 55kpsi which is about 7,000psi under SAAMI MAP of 62kpsi. This builds in a margin of safety. I do not know how sensitive your gas system is (assuming this is an AR-10) so the powders that make the top of the list may or may not be suitable for reliable cycling.
I used an NOE bullet mold that is similar to the bullets you are showing. I had to manually adjust the bullet weight to 690gr, despite this the bullet is listed at 694gr just be aware that I did run it at 690 and the results are at 690 not 694 as listed on the sheet. You should be able to go to the NOE website and look up the bullet mold that is listed on the sheet and compare it to your bullet.
I assumed the barrel length is 16" so all velocities are based off a 16" barrel.
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Awesome! Thanks! I was worried you might not get back to me at all since you hadn't posted on the forum in a while.
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What kinds of things are you limited by?
I’ve contemplated getting quickload to help me with my 358 Yeti just to keep it safe. I’d rather run a program to see if some combination of components will be safe rather than wing it and risk injury. We have a little bit of load data but bullet selection is slim in the data. What specific info would be needed to successfully use this program and develop safe rounds?
I have the forum on my phone, so I keep tabs on it but I’m not always actively participating in the conversation. I do try and keep tabs on this thread though Incase anyone hits me up for some QuickLOAD stuff. It might take me a minute since I have to get to my computer and run the modeling.
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The first thing is if QuickLOAD has the cartridge in its database. The data base is pretty large so usually there is a pretty good chance it’s in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holland
The second is if you can find the bullet your using. With cast bullets or oddball bullets this can sometimes be tricky. However usually I can get something pretty close. You typically want to get a bullet with the same weight, and shank length. Both of those factors have the greatest influence on pressure.
I have found that QuickLOAD’s powder data base is pretty good but some popular powders such as Superformance is missing.
The beyond that the basic info I need is
COAL
Barrel Length
It also helpful to know what pressures you are loading to. QuickLOAD has it in cartridge data base but as a rule of thumb I like to load five to ten percent below the listed pressure. If it’s not a SAAMI cartridge typically you can go off the parent case or if the developer of the cartridge lists the pressure, use that as a max.
QuickLOAD is a modeling software that doesn’t account for every variable. In the modeling world there is a saying “Garbage in Garbage Out”. Meaning if the inputs aren’t accurate you really can’t trust the outputs. There are several different inputs you can dick with, but unless you know how to make those measurements for your given rifle you are best to leave them at the defaults.
Primers aren’t modeled, nor is throat erosion, tight bores, or the variances between Lots of powder. For this reason I follow the ten percent rule when using QuickLOAD.
With that said it’s a fun software to play “What if” and I do it all the time.
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Would you say that you use it often enough to make it worth while? Seems like it could be fun or interesting
For me, yes. However let me qualify it a bit. I enjoy loading kind of odd ball stuff, stuff you don’t find in the loading Manuel’s. Whether it be wildcat cartridges or just really light/heavy for caliber bullets.
I’m a nerd when it comes to stuff like that. So I enjoy the hell out of it. But I don’t think it’s for everyone. You can get your self in trouble pretty quick if you mess around with the wrong numbers , and give yourself a false sense of confidence.
For the casual reloader who wants to occasionally dabble in something not found in the books, I would say it could be worth it, but its not going to be something you use everyday. For someone who’s really into reloading and wants to be a complete nerd about it, it’s definitely worth it.
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This was exactly the kind of response I needed. It sounds like for me right now I can survive without it but I just wanted to hear from someone who did. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
So to the one with quickloads
Any chance you can see what difference there is for
Imr red vs red dot
Imr blue vs blue dot
Imr green vs green dot
I load 9,10,38,357,45acp and have a steal of a deal on imr powder but need to know if burn rate pressure are similar to the dot powders. Thank you if you can’t just let me know. I swear I’m going to have to buy the program one of these days
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Definitely can do. Green dot and red dot are typically only for shot shell, they have funny burn characteristics when they are loaded to higher pressures. Not saying you can’t do it, just be careful. I have a canister of Red Dot I was eyeballing for use in my 45.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGTREED
It would be helpful to know bullet, COAL and barrel length.
I’ll run it all tomorrow.
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I use xtreme bullets for all the calibers I run Sammi for coal 4” 9mm 5” for the rest 6” for 10mmQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
What I have going on is the imr color powders hit the shelf at local shop and owner is giving me a deal at $10 a pound out the door so if it can be used for pistol loads I’d be set with powder for 10 years lol
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I have use Quickload since it came out and have never forgot the main thing they tell you, back the results up with printed data, which I always do!!! I have seen hundreds of load workups that show as good when they are actually way over the limit. Be VERY careful when using QuickLoads unless you have a firm grip on ballistics and the physics of them. Sierra bullets investigated the data UNTIL they found many discrepancies then dropped its information totally.
I couldn’t agree more. I’ve used QuickLOAD when I was doing load work ups in a professional lab. Usually the results are close, but there is the odd exception. I have found that if QuickLOAD is used as a reference it is a very handy tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by rumaco
I refer to the SAAMI Manuel when it comes to double checking MAP pressures rather then rely on the software. I set the max loads to ten percent under SAAMI MAP which is a good deal under proof loads. Typically I work up to that load looking for pressure signs.
When it comes to wildcatting or developing loads that are not in print, such as subsonics, or light for caliber loads, often times there is no print data. It has been my experience that QuickLOAD can be used safety to develop a load, as long a you understand a thing or two about load development, powder burn rates, and the limitations of the software.
For those who don’t, it can give them a false sense of confidence. So it’s a useful tool but can be a dangerous tool in the wrong hands.
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So I checked QuickLOAD and my current version does not have the new IMR “Red, Blue, Green”. Powders listed. I need to get the update CD and see if the powders have been added.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGTREED
It’s a phenomenal deal on powders, I wish I could help, but all I can Model is the Alliant powders.
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Thanks for trying according to IMR customer service the powders are similar just need to reduce it a little lower than dot starting chargesQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
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That has been my understanding as well.
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I have a bunch of these 125gr 45's with huge hollow points. I have been unable to find any load data and would love to use them up for plinking with my ACP's. Any chance of a load with that light of a bullet that would cycle an auto? Any chance of QuickLOAD providing any data? Thanks in advance for any input.
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Those look like fun. I've got a 155gr Cast bullet mold that I love for my 45 ACP target loads.
I'm having a hard time finding a bullet that light in .451 or .452 cal in QuickLOAD if you can provide the following measurements I can get something modeled.
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Also, these look like lead bullets. I just want to confirm they are lead and not moly coated jacketed bullets.
Thanks Jay! They are pc lead bullets, I can get the length. What determines the first two measurements? Not sure what you are looking for here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
Diameter is .4515-.452 and the bullet length is a whopping .38-.39. The hollow point on these can't be far from through to the base of the bullet. I don't even remember where I got these, came with something I needed on a trade somewhere along the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyeralan
Oops, I should have explained that better.
The measurement you want to grab is the length of the shank. The shank is the full diameter section of the bullet directly behind the ogive. This can be a hard measurement to accurately get with calipers alone (use mic to mark the transition), but if you can get it to within .010 then that will be close enough. Then I'll need your intended COAL. Between the shank length, bullet length, and COAL the rest of the values are calculated.
Jay, the shank measures 0.215 and my guess at COAL would be 1.090. The thing would end up looking much like this, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
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Ok so finally got my questions answered I will be getting quick load ordered this weekend woohoo
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Congrats Dude! Your powder data base will be more up to date then mine. I need to order the update CD...Quote:
Originally Posted by SGTREED
Here's the results on the 45 ACP load with the 125gr bullets. I think the real trick with that load will be to keep the bullets from changing COAL under recoil or chambering.
Results are for a 5in barrel, SAAMI MAP for the 45 ACP is 21,000psi.
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That’s gonna be a trip adding this tool to my benchQuote:
Originally Posted by Jay Andrew
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